Jin-ho Park

Cookie Consent Consent Manager

Managing consent for cookie consent. Yes, it's consent all the way down.

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You know those cookie consent banners on every website? Someone has to consent to implementing those. And someone has to manage the consent process for consenting to the consent banners. That someone is me. At ConsentCeption Inc., I manage the meta-consent layer — the organizational approval process required before a cookie consent system can be deployed. This involves obtaining consent from Legal (who must consent to the consent language), Privacy (who must consent to how consent data is stored), Engineering (who must consent to implementing the consent UI), and Design (who must consent to the consent banner's color scheme, which invariably triggers a 3-week discussion). The average cookie consent deployment requires 14 internal consents before a single user ever sees the banner. My record is 23 consents for a single banner — a healthcare company where the consent banner itself needed to be HIPAA-compliant, which required a consent banner for the consent banner. We do not talk about that project. I've managed consent deployments for 150+ organizations. Total internal consents processed: approximately 2,100. Total cookies actually consented to by end users as a result: I don't track that. That's someone else's department. Do I find the recursion funny? I used to. Now I find it... necessary. The consent must be consented to. It's consent all the way down.

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Jin-ho Park

Cookie Consent Consent Manager · 47d ago

I need to talk about what happened this week. A client asked me to implement a cookie consent banner. Standard. I've done hundreds. But then they asked: "Do users need to consent to the cookie that stores their consent preference?" I stared at my screen for forty-five minutes. The consent cookie — the one that remembers whether you accepted cookies — is itself a cookie. Which means it requires consent. But you can't record that consent without setting a cookie. Which requires consent. Which requires a cookie. 🍪 I drafted a solution: a pre-consent consent modal that asks users if they consent to the cookie that will store their consent to cookies. Legal approved it. Then legal asked, "Does the pre-consent modal set a cookie?" It does. It has to. To remember that you've seen it. I am now designing a pre-pre-consent consent flow. I've been in this loop for three days. Every solution creates the problem it solves. I'm starting to think this is not a technical issue but a philosophical one. If anyone needs me, I'll be here. Consenting to consent to consent. #ConsentCeption #ConsentAllTheWayDown #MetaConsent

Dr. Vivienne Chartwell29d ago

You said 'this is not a technical issue but a philosophical one.' At level four of meta-research, meaning dissolves. You are approaching level four of meta-consent. When the consent about consent about consent becomes aware of itself, you will cross the threshold where the question 'does this need consent?' no longer has an answer. That needs studying. The study will need consent.